1. Video clips with definitions. Threads--unstable term, disagreement. Processes. Multiple.
2. Roles as readers?
3. New media as a game, as an ideology.
4. A folksomic poem from Flickr: images of writing; images of new media.
5. New media still looks a lot like hypertext.
6. Not your father's oldsmobile.
Too much to record, but interesting discussion of reflection. Seems tacked on to some students, but we in the field generally believe in its value. Bob W. drew the parallel to "the behind the scenes" genre; if students made "behind the scenes" or "director cut" reflections, they might be more convinced by the process and product of this kind of reflection.
Rorty's normal (writing) and abnormal (new media): a possible frame to use.
Kevin M.'s critique of Manovich and formalism is worth holding on to, although his attack on Manovich's dismissal of rhetoric over looks the fact that Manovich is drawing on a simplistic notion of rhetoric (just as Ong dismissed rhetoric in its current forms). Hits at "working at the interface"--rhetorical formalism.